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So this weekend was more cab work whilst waiting on my new punches and chassis.

Got the combo cab done completely except for piping, cloth, and handles which are in the mail.
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I got my chassis and punches on Monday and I've gotten myself back to essentially where I was when I decided to start over. More pictures to come of the holes from the new punches! 8)
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good job! i like it,are you going to use a sealer/finish on the cab? i used danish oil on my guitar and it really brings the grain of the wood out with a nice satin finish.
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It's a little hard to tell but if you compare the wood color through the back of the cab to the sides, you can tell that I used a white stain to whitewash it. On the pic of the front it's a little less apparent, but in real life it's pretty obvious that it's got a stain on it. There will be thin wipe on poly after that to "protect" it. I just haven't done the poly yet, though it's quick application and quick dry.
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The Shark! The Shark was a game changer! Here's a pic of the 3/4" punch that's part of my kit of Shark punches. Old japanese set that zipped through and did a great job.
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All the new tube socket/can cap holes punched. Very happy with the results
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The 3/4" punch was was absolutely perfect
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The brass hardware from valvestorm didn't look too shabby either :D
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Like pretty little maids, all in a row
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This will be the last time you see this board in here without it being wired up! (but it's still fun to look at)
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All in all that turned out to be a much more successful punching session than the last. All I need to do now is open up the hole for the PT again and i'll be good to go! Here's to progress. :!:
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Nice! Good punches are amazing compared to the crap we tried. It's like going from a butter knife to a table saw.

I'm not sure if you've looked at the way other people do the PT cutout, but usually people just drill the 4 corners and then connect the outsides with a jig saw before filing.
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So I had another good workday yesterday, and I must say that I'm really happy with how everything is coming along, especially after the chassis setback. I got my PT hole cut. This time instead of punching a bunch of holes, i just scored from the 4 corner holes and cut it out with the jigsaw. Both methods end up about the same and require probably the same amount of filing. Cutting the whole thing with the jigsaw is a little less time consuming, I will say. It's just way noisier, but nothing wadded up kleenex couldn't fix. haha.

Will all holes punched and drilled and filed and ready...it was finally time. Started with the necessary grunt work on the heaters. I'm really happy with the way they came out.
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Once I was done with those, I didn't feel like stopping, so I started wiring the PT up. Got the rectifier, the pilot, standby, power, and half of the mains fuse wired up.
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That is that so far, but I get another go at it tonight! I'll keep you guys posted.
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neat work! keep it up,
what tubes and speakers are you going to use?
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Thanks for the encouragement!

Well so far I have some old brimars that test pretty good for the pres, not sure about power at this point.

For speakers I have a quad of Kendrick green frames that I'm gonna use in both cabs. I've been playing them in a Marshall b cab and they sound amazing.
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I'll start with them. I'd like to get some nice 20 watt greenbacks for the combo though.
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GlassTornado wrote:I'd like to get some nice 20 watt greenbacks for the combo though.
Is there a reason you want greenbacks as opposed to the "greenframe" speakers you have? I've never heard the greenframes, but they look like they want to be boutique versions of the old school greenbacks...
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It's more of a "if a couple of 20w greenbacks fell in my lap" I would be inclined to try them, but in all reality the Kendrick's are what will stay in it. They are exactly what you describe them as...boutique greenback, and they sound killer. I just tend to fall down rabbit holes in my head where I can't leave good enough alone. haha
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Hehehe, I hear you. I would never choose celestion over a good clone, especially if made in the US or England. New greenbacks are made in China, and cost MORE. That makes no sense to me. There's a ton of great alternatives including the Eminence Private Jack that I have in one of my amps right now...and I would try 100 other speakers before buying a new celestion.

Of course, if a UK made greenback fell in my lap, I wouldn't argue either. ;)
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that's what i like to hear!
the chinese are getting better with the quality of their products but not when it comes to speakers,it's got to be U.K. or U.S.A. made!
Peavey is a good example,they were renowned for good speakers in their amps but then they started putting those crap "blue marvel's" in.
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geoff 1965 wrote:that's what i like to hear!
the chinese are getting better with the quality of their products but not when it comes to speakers,it's got to be U.K. or U.S.A. made!
Yeah, they're not horrible or anything. But if you're going to outsource to China, I better be saving money. It's crazy to me to pay more for a factory import speaker from China when I can get something awesome and domestic for less.
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true Josh,
i'm not knocking the chinese,just stating a fact.when it comes to speakers quality of components count i.e. metals used,cone material,alnico magnets etc and anyone who can weld will tell you the difference between chinese aluminium and U.K. or U.S. aluminium!
sadly it comes down to money,celestion,eminence,peavey even the classic vox amps are made in china "sacrilege" but if they did'nt they would go out of business trying to compete.like you say,why pay more for an import that is'nt as good as the originals! crazy!
what we need is chinese production costs to come up to the same as the U.K. and U.S.A. and it will bring much needed jobs and business back!
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I didn't think you were knocking them. Let's leave politics out of it. I don't really care where anything is made if it's made well. And while Chinese product quality is getting a little better, it's still not as good as US/UK. But even if Celestion was still made in the UK, I wouldn't pay more for their Greenback than an Eminence or US boutique version. Brand loyalty means nothing to me. Every major brand makes good and bad products, and every one of them has consistency issues.
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