36 W TMB Kit
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- runout1
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36 W TMB Kit
I am a total newb and am about
to order a 36 watt TMB kit. The question
that I have is about tube bias'ing. Everything
I read says let a tech do it. Well what I want
to know is with the 36 watt clone kit is tube
bias'ing required? if it is how do you do it?
what happens if you don't do it? Thanks
anyways I am just trying to figure out
this tube biasing thing? Is there something
that I need to make or to buy to do it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
P.S anyone have any sound clips of
there 36 watter? how loud is it????
to order a 36 watt TMB kit. The question
that I have is about tube bias'ing. Everything
I read says let a tech do it. Well what I want
to know is with the 36 watt clone kit is tube
bias'ing required? if it is how do you do it?
what happens if you don't do it? Thanks
anyways I am just trying to figure out
this tube biasing thing? Is there something
that I need to make or to buy to do it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
P.S anyone have any sound clips of
there 36 watter? how loud is it????
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36W is a cathode biased amp.
Usually don't need setting the bias (no bias pot)..... If bias is wrong you need change the bias resistor..........but i'm not expert.........
I think 36Wer have similar loudness than a Vox AC30 and little less loudness than a 50W plexi. Depend on what speakers you using.
Usually don't need setting the bias (no bias pot)..... If bias is wrong you need change the bias resistor..........but i'm not expert.........
I think 36Wer have similar loudness than a Vox AC30 and little less loudness than a 50W plexi. Depend on what speakers you using.
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Biasing: Don't sweat it... most kits available out there are using the generally accepted schematics/layouts that are cathode-bias meaning that you don't need to bias the amp when changing tubes like you would on a typical fixed-bias 6L6 or EL34 based amp.
Power/loudness: My amp is loud! I almost never use 36W when practicing or recording and in fact usually use an attenuator as well. I suggest that you get a kit that has a half-power switch or think about adding one. It's nice to have the extra power when playing out though and it is just enough to keep up in a band situation. Sacrificing one speaker jack and rewiring it as a line-out jack gives you the ability to slave the signal to a power amp or PA when you need to as well.
FWIW, my speaker cabs are around ~100dB SPL and I prefer the Heritage G12H paired with a Ramrod as my "quiet" cab and run my Marshall 8x10 when I have a chance to "go big".
I've found that my 36W at full tilt can outrun a newer AC30CC (2x12 stock) easily but has trouble keeping up with a Rose Morris AC30 from the 80's that I have access to... and it also regularly holds its own against a stock Fender Blues DeVille RI 4x10 that is 60W. Probably mostly an issue of my really efficient speakers vs. the Eminence AlNiCos in the BdV, though. Speakers can make a HUGE difference!
Power/loudness: My amp is loud! I almost never use 36W when practicing or recording and in fact usually use an attenuator as well. I suggest that you get a kit that has a half-power switch or think about adding one. It's nice to have the extra power when playing out though and it is just enough to keep up in a band situation. Sacrificing one speaker jack and rewiring it as a line-out jack gives you the ability to slave the signal to a power amp or PA when you need to as well.
FWIW, my speaker cabs are around ~100dB SPL and I prefer the Heritage G12H paired with a Ramrod as my "quiet" cab and run my Marshall 8x10 when I have a chance to "go big".
I've found that my 36W at full tilt can outrun a newer AC30CC (2x12 stock) easily but has trouble keeping up with a Rose Morris AC30 from the 80's that I have access to... and it also regularly holds its own against a stock Fender Blues DeVille RI 4x10 that is 60W. Probably mostly an issue of my really efficient speakers vs. the Eminence AlNiCos in the BdV, though. Speakers can make a HUGE difference!
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- runout1
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thanks for the info guys!!! I am super
excited about getting started!! If you
could compare the tone to something
what would you compare it too? I am
looking for like old school black sabbath
and I cannot afford old orange mattamp
heads so I decided to build one? (not an orange)
Do you think that a 36watt can achieve
this kind of tone?
excited about getting started!! If you
could compare the tone to something
what would you compare it too? I am
looking for like old school black sabbath
and I cannot afford old orange mattamp
heads so I decided to build one? (not an orange)
Do you think that a 36watt can achieve
this kind of tone?
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you can use pedals to get different sounds. here are a few places that have some 36 watt recordings.
http://www.archive.org/details/amminor2 ... csb.flac16
http://www.18watt.com/modules.php?name= ... &p=RICHAMP
http://www.americanminormusic.com/index_main.html
http://www.archive.org/details/amminor2 ... csb.flac16
http://www.18watt.com/modules.php?name= ... &p=RICHAMP
http://www.americanminormusic.com/index_main.html
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