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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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glad the schematic was of good use for you! i have'nt built an amp with reverb but i'm sure the rest of the guys will help you out. if you go to the "EL34 world" website there are schematics,layouts and parts lists for the hoffman reverb amps.
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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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But i some wonder if this reverb will have some weak signal compared to the fender...?
Fender have two triodes in paralell for extra current before the transformer and an extra triode after the recovery triode....
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SkilpaddaN287 wrote:
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But i some wonder if this reverb will have some weak signal compared to the fender...?
Fender have two triodes in paralell for extra current before the transformer and an extra triode after the recovery triode....
It is not as strong as the Fender blackface reverb. I find that there’s plenty available for my personal taste, but if you’re wanting Fender amounts, this circuit won’t get you all the way there.
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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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Did some old fashioned drawing...
Have to tune the power supply to get good voltages but on my view it should work...
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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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I have an original 18w "Master Reverb", a 1958 in 2x10 format. It's an interesting amp, single channel with both reverb and trem. Interesting layout too. A friend knocked up a schematic for me, which I'll do my best to find and post here in due course.

In the meantime, a couple of pictures.....

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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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I have an original 18w "Master Reverb", a 1958 in 2x10 format. It's an interesting amp, single channel with both reverb and trem. Interesting layout too. A friend knocked up a schematic for me, which I'll do my best to find and post here in due course.
I'd love to see the schematic when you get it. Can you post some sound samples? I'd love to hear the reverb half way, and fully cranked.

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I havent been on here in a longggg time.

My buddy has a orginal 18w w/reverb.

If my gallery is still on here, there's pics, including chassis
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sreiter wrote:
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I havent been on here in a longggg time.

My buddy has a orginal 18w w/reverb.

If my gallery is still on here, there's pics, including chassis
Do you remember what your album was called? The old archive galleries are here: gallery/

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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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Hello I just joined this site and am planning to build an 18W amp. I'd like to add reverb and found this thread. It looks like it went stale back in 2018.

Does anyone have a schematic for the original Marshall design with the reverb option?
I'd like to stay as close to the original as possible as opposed to kluging in something.
I'd appreciate any help from you all.
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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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I do not recall any approved or tested circuits while I have been on the Forum. But even so there may be one buried somewhere. Unfortunately some early material in threads was not recoverable after a hack several years ago.

Having said that it would be a useful circuit to have. What form of 18 watt were you considering? If it is an 18 watt lite then all the standard iron should work fine. But if a trem or TMB then you would have to consider the power transformer needs first since you are adding at least one twin triode and possibly also a triode pentode depending on how good a reverb you would like.

I have a vague recollection of someone on PPWatt discussing a form where the reverb went in place of the trem channel (a big loss in my view) so I will go have a look there. This is a feasible build so it is worth pursuing even if some of our elder members disapproved of 18 watt with reverb.

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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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JMPGuitars wrote:
Wed 09/20/17 6:39 am
Yeah, I'd love to see that if you find one. If you're just looking to add reverb to an 18 watter, the "single valve reverb" method works very well.
And once again I’ll say that adding reverb to a Marshall 18W is a desecration! :evil: There’s enough natural chime and shimmer in the amp already, and the combination of distortion plus reverb just results in a mess. Note that none of the great famous vintage Marshall amps had reverb, and no doubt, there were good reasons.
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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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zaphod_phil wrote:
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JMPGuitars wrote:
Wed 09/20/17 6:39 am
Yeah, I'd love to see that if you find one. If you're just looking to add reverb to an 18 watter, the "single valve reverb" method works very well.
And once again I’ll say that adding reverb to a Marshall 18W is a desecration! :evil: There’s enough natural chime and shimmer in the amp already, and the combination of distortion plus reverb just results in a mess. Note that none of the great famous vintage Marshall amps had reverb, and no doubt, there were good reasons.
ZP you should be proud about witnessing one day surfbands use Marshalls on stage!!! Listen to early mermen. They overdrive all the time..WITH reverb!! And it sounds awesome !!!😃
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zaphod_phil wrote:
Mon 04/13/20 10:07 pm
And once again I’ll say that adding reverb to a Marshall 18W is a desecration! :evil: There’s enough natural chime and shimmer in the amp already, and the combination of distortion plus reverb just results in a mess. Note that none of the great famous vintage Marshall amps had reverb, and no doubt, there were good reasons.
I know. Check this moron out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-C290qE-4

That guy made an EF86 18 Watter in a combo - with reverb! And then played a jazz box through it?! What a mess. :lol:
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Re: Marshall 18watt Reverb

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JMPGuitars wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 6:59 am
zaphod_phil wrote:
Mon 04/13/20 10:07 pm
And once again I’ll say that adding reverb to a Marshall 18W is a desecration! :evil: There’s enough natural chime and shimmer in the amp already, and the combination of distortion plus reverb just results in a mess. Note that none of the great famous vintage Marshall amps had reverb, and no doubt, there were good reasons.
I know. Check this moron out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-C290qE-4

That guy made an EF86 18 Watter in a combo - with reverb! And then played a jazz box through it?! What a mess. :lol:
Wow!! That's an easter atmosphere!!! Who can spot the egg hidden in the video ? 😉
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Bieworm wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 7:13 am
Wow!! That's an easter atmosphere!!! Who can spot the egg hidden in the video ? 😉
Well if you think that was bad, the dude made a version of ZP's Superlite TMB, but with EL34s and even more reverb! https://youtu.be/PeRZXThV54s?t=215
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JMPGuitars wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 7:53 am
Bieworm wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 7:13 am
Wow!! That's an easter atmosphere!!! Who can spot the egg hidden in the video ? 😉
Well if you think that was bad, the dude made a version of ZP's Superlite TMB, but with EL34s and even more reverb! https://youtu.be/PeRZXThV54s?t=215
No Josh..not bad at all man. Sincerely!
Just joking with your shiny hair-do. Don't worry, mine's almost alike. I trim mine at level zero...so just a little bit 0.5mm brush.
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Bieworm wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 8:16 am
No Josh..not bad at all man. Sincerely!
Just joking with your shiny hair-do. Don't worry, mine's almost alike. I trim mine at level zero...so just a little bit 0.5mm brush.
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Lol, I just realized what you were saying.

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JMPGuitars wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 7:53 am
Well if you think that was bad, the dude made a version of ZP's Superlite TMB, but with EL34s and even more reverb! https://youtu.be/PeRZXThV54s?t=215
I feel sick. I think I'm going to throw up :cry:
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JMPGuitars wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 8:45 am
Bieworm wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 8:16 am
No Josh..not bad at all man. Sincerely!
Just joking with your shiny hair-do. Don't worry, mine's almost alike. I trim mine at level zero...so just a little bit 0.5mm brush.
😄😄😄
Lol, I just realized what you were saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prtby_sHyD8
:lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW I have the same shiny "hairstyle", but with a big bushy beard.
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zaphod_phil wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 11:10 am
JMPGuitars wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 8:45 am
Bieworm wrote:
Tue 04/14/20 8:16 am
No Josh..not bad at all man. Sincerely!
Just joking with your shiny hair-do. Don't worry, mine's almost alike. I trim mine at level zero...so just a little bit 0.5mm brush.
😄😄😄
Lol, I just realized what you were saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prtby_sHyD8
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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All about compensating the loss 😎
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