Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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Re: Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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JMPGuitars wrote:
Sat 08/21/21 8:16 am
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It's true, 18 watts is plenty. The only reason I have 36 watts for my personal amp is because I prefer EL34s to EL84s, though both do sound great. If I only had EL84s to build with, I wouldn't make it more than 18W or 20W.
I keep trying to like the EL34 more than the 84. But there is something magical about the 84 I can't describe... somewhat darker and mysterious. The saturated sound of an EL84 is hard to beat IMHO
One isn't better than the other. It's just personal taste. I still love the EL84, but EL34 has always been my favorite tube.
I am surprised you both feel that a 40ish watt amp is not needed. I realize it depends on what you are using the amp for. In my very limited experience playing in a band as a teen we had my Princeton and a borrowed Twin Reverb. The Princeton would have to be near max to compete with the drummer and then the amp was distorted at that volume. We did not play in clubs obviously, but we did play in gymnasiums and a lot outside. I will say we did have the circuit breakers pulled on us more than once so if nothing else we were loud. I would think there are many places where you would play where you could not mike into a PA system. What am I missing. Thanks
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Re: Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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Nice result.. the faceplate
Just a testpiece...
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Re: Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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Nice result.. the faceplate
Just a testpiece...20210821_182716.jpg20210821_183337.jpg
For my guitar logos I use Metal Electroform Stickers. They are very high quality and you can have text printed as small as you need. I was able to buy two 8x10 sheets for around $30 a sheet. These would look really good on an amp. Might be worth looking into.
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Re: Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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wade wrote:
Sat 08/21/21 12:20 pm
Bieworm wrote:
Sat 08/21/21 11:28 am
Nice result.. the faceplate
Just a testpiece...20210821_182716.jpg20210821_183337.jpg
For my guitar logos I use Metal Electroform Stickers. They are very high quality and you can have text printed as small as you need. I was able to buy two 8x10 sheets for around $30 a sheet. These would look really good on an amp. Might be worth looking into.
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Thanks.
I'm exploring the possibilities with this guy's equipment. Next build is a 50W marshall. Probably Sluckey's Dual 50. I'm gonna get the chassis and faceplates done by my new laser guy.
50$ for a custom made chassis. 2mm aluminium. All holes lasered and stuff
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Re: Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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wade wrote:
Sat 08/21/21 10:21 am
I am surprised you both feel that a 40ish watt amp is not needed. I realize it depends on what you are using the amp for. In my very limited experience playing in a band as a teen we had my Princeton and a borrowed Twin Reverb. The Princeton would have to be near max to compete with the drummer and then the amp was distorted at that volume. We did not play in clubs obviously, but we did play in gymnasiums and a lot outside. I will say we did have the circuit breakers pulled on us more than once so if nothing else we were loud. I would think there are many places where you would play where you could not mike into a PA system. What am I missing. Thanks
18W is 67% as loud as a 100W. The question is the circuit, and the amount of headroom needed.

I believe Bieworm uses his 18W with his band. I think 18 to 40W is a fine range. Good 18W and 36W OTs can handle that range beautifully.

If you're playing professionally, there should always be a PA available. If there isn't, it's not a professional gig...which is fine too, just crank the amp. ;)

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: Valve Standard to 18 Watt conversion Cabinet

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JMPGuitars wrote:
Sat 08/21/21 3:50 pm
wade wrote:
Sat 08/21/21 10:21 am
I am surprised you both feel that a 40ish watt amp is not needed. I realize it depends on what you are using the amp for. In my very limited experience playing in a band as a teen we had my Princeton and a borrowed Twin Reverb. The Princeton would have to be near max to compete with the drummer and then the amp was distorted at that volume. We did not play in clubs obviously, but we did play in gymnasiums and a lot outside. I will say we did have the circuit breakers pulled on us more than once so if nothing else we were loud. I would think there are many places where you would play where you could not mike into a PA system. What am I missing. Thanks
18W is 67% as loud as a 100W. The question is the circuit, and the amount of headroom needed.

I believe Bieworm uses his 18W with his band. I think 18 to 40W is a fine range. Good 18W and 36W OTs can handle that range beautifully.

If you're playing professionally, there should always be a PA available. If there isn't, it's not a professional gig...which is fine too, just crank the amp. ;)

Thanks,
Josh
That's right! 18 watt is for me just a little tiny bit too much. But the right amount.. in the right moments I take it to 100% and love it to death!!!
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