18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Forum to discuss amp circuits besides the 18 Watters and their ilk.

Moderators: JMPGuitars, Daviedawg, Graydon, CurtissRobin, colossal, zaphod_phil

Post Reply
Gradysmusic
Unrated
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu 02/18/21 9:46 am

18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by Gradysmusic »

Hello All, I just want to thank everybody for all the invaluable information.

I had an 18w
20191215_140646(1).jpg
that was my second amp i ever built that got modded and modded until it was a basketcase and i played through a couple of Dr.Z prescription + amps that i worked on. I really got turned onto the ef86. So i scrapped the 18watt and reused transformers and chassis i made and built a mix between some of the ef86 amps on the download page and a vox ac30. the results are so silky sweet. not sure if the undersized transformers have anything to do with it i assume they do. i will post more pics and schematic/layouts as soon as i take some.
20210525_183241.jpg
20210525_183244 (2).jpg

If this is not in an appropriate area or unwanted on the forum feel free to dump it. I really just wanted to thank zaphod_phil and JMPguitars for their posts and hard work, and others too in the past have helped me quickly diagnose or remedy amp issues. Great Community with very little misinformation which I'm sure everybody notices on other forums.

Play on Players!
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
1 x

User avatar
JMPGuitars
Super Duper Admin
Super Duper Admin
Posts: 4072
Joined: Tue 09/18/12 8:00 pm
Location: South Central, MA
Contact:

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by JMPGuitars »

Cool! What transformers and power tubes are you using? Where's the demo? ;)
0 x
'I installed a skylight in my apartment yesterday... The people who live above me are furious.' - Steven Wright

Modern Ground Schemes
Soldering Technique
B+ Voltage Reduction
Amplifier Tools & Parts Info


Web Design: DolceVittoria.com
Guitars / Amps / Effects: JMPGuitars.com
(anti)Social: Facebook · Instagram
Items for Sale

User avatar
zaphod_phil
Builder, Admin
Builder, Admin
Posts: 15208
Joined: Wed 03/19/03 2:00 am
Location: YYZ

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by zaphod_phil »

Keep in mind that Marshall tone controls work quite differently to the F***er tone controls that you're used to. To understand the differences visually, I recommend using Duncan's Tone Stack Calculator - http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/
0 x
Nature abhors a clean tube amp

User avatar
zaphod_phil
Builder, Admin
Builder, Admin
Posts: 15208
Joined: Wed 03/19/03 2:00 am
Location: YYZ

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by zaphod_phil »

JMPGuitars wrote:
Mon 01/03/22 3:06 pm
Cool! What transformers and power tubes are you using? Where's the demo? ;)
And where's the schematic, so we can see the details of what you've really done? :)
1 x
Nature abhors a clean tube amp

User avatar
zaphod_phil
Builder, Admin
Builder, Admin
Posts: 15208
Joined: Wed 03/19/03 2:00 am
Location: YYZ

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by zaphod_phil »

Your amp is totally within the guidelines of this site :) Are there any similarities with the Vajra 18W by Mark Durham RIP(ignoring the Bias switch and PP/SE control)? https://mhuss.com/18watt/schematics/Vajra18Scheme.jpg
0 x
Nature abhors a clean tube amp

User avatar
zaphod_phil
Builder, Admin
Builder, Admin
Posts: 15208
Joined: Wed 03/19/03 2:00 am
Location: YYZ

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by zaphod_phil »

Here's the EF86 preamp stage I would recommend:
"Valve Wizard" Merlin Blencowe has a web page where he shows a theoretical way to design a pentode preamp stage. However, not everyone who has tried his approach has had good results - just ask Josh :wink: You might also like to look at some of Josh's EF86 preamp designs for something that works well :)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
1 x
Nature abhors a clean tube amp

User avatar
JMPGuitars
Super Duper Admin
Super Duper Admin
Posts: 4072
Joined: Tue 09/18/12 8:00 pm
Location: South Central, MA
Contact:

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by JMPGuitars »

zaphod_phil wrote:
Mon 01/10/22 1:42 pm
Here's the EF86 preamp stage I would recommend:
"Valve Wizard" Merlin Blencowe has a web page where he shows a theoretical way to design a pentode preamp stage. However, not everyone who has tried his approach has had good results - just ask Josh :wink: You might also like to look at some of Josh's EF86 preamp designs for something that works well :)
Ha, that's true!

The EF86 in my EF86 Xtra circuit is by far my favorite use of an EF86. Less microphonic IME too. files/JMPGuitars_18_Watt_EF86_Xtra_Schematic.pdf

Thanks,
Josh
1 x
'I installed a skylight in my apartment yesterday... The people who live above me are furious.' - Steven Wright

Modern Ground Schemes
Soldering Technique
B+ Voltage Reduction
Amplifier Tools & Parts Info


Web Design: DolceVittoria.com
Guitars / Amps / Effects: JMPGuitars.com
(anti)Social: Facebook · Instagram
Items for Sale

User avatar
zaphod_phil
Builder, Admin
Builder, Admin
Posts: 15208
Joined: Wed 03/19/03 2:00 am
Location: YYZ

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by zaphod_phil »

That looks great, Josh! There's nothing like a tried, tested and tweaked design :)
How would you rate the difference between your EF86 Modern Classic and EF86 Xtra TMB preamps, apart from the obvious difference in overall gain? The Modern Classic looks much more traditional Vox-like to me.
2 x
Nature abhors a clean tube amp

User avatar
JMPGuitars
Super Duper Admin
Super Duper Admin
Posts: 4072
Joined: Tue 09/18/12 8:00 pm
Location: South Central, MA
Contact:

Re: 18watt turned ac30 ef86 channel only

Post by JMPGuitars »

zaphod_phil wrote:
Mon 01/10/22 4:29 pm
That looks great, Josh! There's nothing like a tried, tested and tweaked design :)
How would you rate the difference between your EF86 Modern Classic and EF86 Xtra TMB preamps, apart from the obvious difference in overall gain? The Modern Classic looks much more traditional Vox-like to me.
Thanks! You're absolutely right about the Modern Classic being more traditional Voxish. It's certainly a good sound, but the changes I made to the EF86 preamp in the EF86 Xtra, to me, sound a lot better. Better sounding dirt, and less microphonic. I think I should make an EF86 Lite 2P with those changes. We'll see if I'm too lazy or not. ;)

Thanks,
Josh
0 x
'I installed a skylight in my apartment yesterday... The people who live above me are furious.' - Steven Wright

Modern Ground Schemes
Soldering Technique
B+ Voltage Reduction
Amplifier Tools & Parts Info


Web Design: DolceVittoria.com
Guitars / Amps / Effects: JMPGuitars.com
(anti)Social: Facebook · Instagram
Items for Sale

Post Reply