Output Transformer Substitution
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Output Transformer Substitution
I am going to rebuild an amp into the Robinette 6v6jcm800. His design states to use a 7K 8ohm output transformer and I already have an 8K 18 watt Mojotone tapped output transformer. I have read that the substitution is probably close enough. The plan has a fixed bias so I can set it anywhere I want. Any ideas on bias voltage?
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Re: Output Transformer Substitution
Bias voltage needs to be set in relation to the current draw of the power tubes. It's no fixed number because of other variables.bobtait wrote: ↑Sun 06/22/25 1:24 pmI am going to rebuild an amp into the Robinette 6v6jcm800. His design states to use a 7K 8ohm output transformer and I already have an 8K 18 watt Mojotone tapped output transformer. I have read that the substitution is probably close enough. The plan has a fixed bias so I can set it anywhere I want. Any ideas on bias voltage?
When you go fixed bias it's a good thing to put 1 Ohm 1% resistors between pin 8 and ground on the 6V6 tubes. That makes it a lot easier to set the bias. On 6V6 amps I usually bias between 50 an 60% dissipation. Mainly because I always build tremolo into my amps and that requires colder bias settings. I also like the sound more with colder bias settings on fixed bias amps.
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Re: Output Transformer Substitution
Thank you for the reply! Did you have any thoughts on the output transformer substitution I mentioned? Also, is it better for each tube to have it's own bias pot or 1 bias pot for the pair? I am musing many things on this build. Like a switchable sag resistor on the SS rectifier. I like the thought of all the different tube possibilities but it seems I would be sacrificing different ohm cabinets and stuck always with 8 ohm speakers.
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Re: Output Transformer Substitution
The 8k 18 W OT is frequently used for that type of amp. So that is just fine.
Bias both tubes with one bias pot. No need to have 2 bias pots unless your tubes are severely unmatched.
Why do you want a SAG resistor on an 800 circuit? The originals were/are SS too. You want that amp as tight as possible.
Bias both tubes with one bias pot. No need to have 2 bias pots unless your tubes are severely unmatched.
Why do you want a SAG resistor on an 800 circuit? The originals were/are SS too. You want that amp as tight as possible.
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Re: Output Transformer Substitution
What if he wants to play blues and metal? 
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LOL! Build another amp for blues , I guess
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Re: Output Transformer Substitution
All of ya'lls replies are great. The reason I was considering a sag resister was if I could put it on a switch it might be cool to go back and forth between the two. I am still looking for a power transformer that has the bias voltage included. I never know what kind of music I will be playing. I spent 45 years as a bass player for all kinds of outfits but I started out on guitar so when I retired I went back. In my blues band I always use 2 amps stacked. On the bottom it's a 5e3 and on the top its a 18 watt blues breaker. Ii like the way they sound together. I have several setups that are configured like that so I can leave one at practise, one at home, etc. This 800 build I am doing is because I managed to get a mojotone hi power tweed 2-12 cabinet for like 200 bucks total with a tuki cover. and I picked up what was supposed to be an 800 clone with 6v6 but, all I can really use is the chassis and faceplates and any other components that are right. But it mounts great in that cabinet. And I figured the Robinette design would work well. I have been jonesing to recreate the last Marshall I played before I became a bass player which was a 30 watt Bluesbreaker head in a small cabinet. Just a itch, as it were. In reality the Fender and Marshall amps blended get the sound I really like. But new builds always find a way to be used. I appreciate all your input.
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