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Yeah, but that DiMarzio thing is from a humbucker perspective... I'm a single coil manJMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 10:24 amSD pickups are still better than Fender/Gibson pickups. Lace and DiMarzio are my favorites. They make pickups that sing and/or scream.
I am mostly into humbuckers, that's true. Though my favorites from DiMarzio are FRED, Gravity Storm, Vintage Mini Humbucker, and a few others. They're crazy backed up right now. I have a Chopper T pickup coming for a tele bridge. I'm looking forward to hearing that with the vintage mini in the neck.
You clearly know your stuff. I've been into offset f*nders for ages.. the aftermarket pickups are scarse for those. But I'm good with the ones that are available. Used to be a bigtime humbucker player for years, but in those days I wasn't into modding and tweaking. Just the standard prs and gibson stuff...JMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 11:31 amI am mostly into humbuckers, that's true. Though my favorites from DiMarzio are FRED, Gravity Storm, Vintage Mini Humbucker, and a few others. They're crazy backed up right now. I have a Chopper T pickup coming for a tele bridge. I'm looking forward to hearing that with the vintage mini in the neck.
The best single coil sound I've ever heard is the Lace "Holy Grail" set, but I also love their sensor series. Gold, hot gold, green, violet, etc... All sound great. I love their Alumitone series. I think my favorite humbuckers from Lace are the Hemi series. Fantastic creamy tone, that can still crunch. Honestly I haven't heard anything from them that wasn't great, but obviously different pickups are made for different styles.
I do coil split a lot for single coil tone, and both companies sound great that way.
I love offsets. One of my favorites is a G&L SC-2 I customized: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYE2IakhWC1/Bieworm wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 11:58 amYou clearly know your stuff. I've been into offset f*nders for ages.. the aftermarket pickups are scarse for those. But I'm good with the ones that are available. Used to be a bigtime humbucker player for years, but in those days I wasn't into modding and tweaking. Just the standard prs and gibson stuff...
Nice! I saw that one in one of your videos! Love the white with the tortoise guard. It's a sunday guitar, wearing that nice suitJMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 12:14 pmI love offsets. One of my favorites is a G&L SC-2 I customized: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYE2IakhWC1/Bieworm wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 11:58 amYou clearly know your stuff. I've been into offset f*nders for ages.. the aftermarket pickups are scarse for those. But I'm good with the ones that are available. Used to be a bigtime humbucker player for years, but in those days I wasn't into modding and tweaking. Just the standard prs and gibson stuff...
The tele bridge pickup (Chopper T) I was referring to is going into an offset tele/master style guitar I'm building. That should be fun.
Well, the amp in this thread doesn't use either method, right? It modulates the gain of the tremolo channel by varying the B+ on the preamp stage. That means there are actually at least three methods.
No this amp wiggles the signal in the preamp stage. It's a very nice tremolo effect. Strong enough.TriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 1:26 pmWell, the amp in this thread doesn't use either method, right? It modulates the gain of the tremolo channel by varying the B+ on the preamp stage. That means there are actually at least three methods.
My first-ever commercial amplifier was a Guild Thunder 1 that I bought new around '65 or '66. It had bias tremolo, and I hated it. Whether that was due to the specific tremolo technique I'm not sure, but to me it was just a cheesy effect that no one except Tommy James would ever use. A very different sound than the clip Josh recorded.
Jack
The Thunder 1 was bias tremolo, but different in several ways. For one thing, there was no Intensity control. For another, I don't remember it being able to tremolo as slowly as the version in Josh's clip. Also, the 6G16 and Tremolo TMB appear to have more gain stages. That would change the tone quite a bit, especially when it's cranked. Maybe my negative impression of that amp's tremolo is the result of all these things together.Bieworm wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 1:36 pmNo this amp wiggles the signal in the preamp stage. It's a very nice tremolo effect. Strong enough.TriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 1:26 pmWell, the amp in this thread doesn't use either method, right? It modulates the gain of the tremolo channel by varying the B+ on the preamp stage. That means there are actually at least three methods.
My first-ever commercial amplifier was a Guild Thunder 1 that I bought new around '65 or '66. It had bias tremolo, and I hated it. Whether that was due to the specific tremolo technique I'm not sure, but to me it was just a cheesy effect that no one except Tommy James would ever use. A very different sound than the clip Josh recorded.
Jack
But the bias vary on my vibro king is a copy of the brown vibroverb. That is the best trem on the planet. When you play with lots of overdrive the tremolo effect mushes up the sound, but that 6G16 tremolo holds the sound together in a superior way, oozing and swamping in a way you think your speakers are gonna blow up. Niiiiiiice!!!
My trem goes that slow because I doubled the 1st capacitor to reduce the speed. There are different methods to achieve slower speeds with this circuit. Merlin covers at least 1 or 2 of them on his site. I'd suggest looking over his thoughts on tremolo if you're planning on doing something funky.TriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 3:07 pmThe Thunder 1 was bias tremolo, but different in several ways. For one thing, there was no Intensity control. For another, I don't remember it being able to tremolo as slowly as the version in Josh's clip. Also, the 6G16 and Tremolo TMB appear to have more gain stages. That would change the tone quite a bit, especially when it's cranked. Maybe my negative impression of that amp's tremolo is the result of all these things together.
I'll review the articles at Valve Wizard. I'm pretty much done (and happy!) with this 36W as it stands. However, my next guitar project will be a tube-based vibrato for the effects loop. That will have a tremolo-type oscillator, and after hearing your clip, probably a switch to select between vibrato and tremolo. Thanks for the info!JMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 3:12 pmMy trem goes that slow because I doubled the 1st capacitor to reduce the speed. There are different methods to achieve slower speeds with this circuit. Merlin covers at least 1 or 2 of them on his site. I'd suggest looking over his thoughts on tremolo if you're planning on doing something funky.TriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 3:07 pmThe Thunder 1 was bias tremolo, but different in several ways. For one thing, there was no Intensity control. For another, I don't remember it being able to tremolo as slowly as the version in Josh's clip. Also, the 6G16 and Tremolo TMB appear to have more gain stages. That would change the tone quite a bit, especially when it's cranked. Maybe my negative impression of that amp's tremolo is the result of all these things together.
It's funny because I'm pretty sure you mean it will switch between tremolo or tremolo.TriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 3:44 pmI'll review the articles at Valve Wizard. I'm pretty much done (and happy!) with this 36W as it stands. However, my next guitar project will be a tube-based vibrato for the effects loop. That will have a tremolo-type oscillator, and after hearing your clip, probably a switch to select between vibrato and tremolo. Thanks for the info!
Jack
Sorry, forgot who I was talking to. I meant to say it will switch between tremolo and real tremolo.JMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 6:54 pm
It's funny because I'm pretty sure you mean it will switch between tremolo or tremolo.
lol, exactly! *real tremolo TBDTriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 8:39 pmSorry, forgot who I was talking to. I meant to say it will switch between tremolo and real tremolo.JMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 6:54 pm
It's funny because I'm pretty sure you mean it will switch between tremolo or tremolo.
Jack
...and yank the guitar's vibrato along the line..JMPGuitars wrote: ↑Tue 03/09/21 6:50 amlol, exactly! *real tremolo TBDTriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 8:39 pmSorry, forgot who I was talking to. I meant to say it will switch between tremolo and real tremolo.JMPGuitars wrote: ↑Mon 03/08/21 6:54 pm
It's funny because I'm pretty sure you mean it will switch between tremolo or tremolo.
Jack
Yeah, but you play a lot of F*nder guitars, so your vibrato thinks it's a tremolo.
Naaahh. ..my offsets sport real* vibratos. Hope there aren't any lonely housewives reading here, gettin' crazy ideasJMPGuitars wrote: ↑Tue 03/09/21 11:34 amYeah, but you play a lot of F*nder guitars, so your vibrato thinks it's a tremolo.
I'm pretty impressed by the tremolo of my imperial clone. It's an IRF840 mosfet doing the wiggleTriodeLuvr wrote: ↑Tue 03/09/21 2:12 pmSeriously, I can't ever leave anything alone. What I really want (in one effects chassis) is a pitch-shifting tremolo driven by it's own LFO (low frequency oscillator), and a "standard" amplitude-shifting tremolo driven by a second LFO. I want the ability to control speed of the two independently, or to drive the two shifters simultaneously from one LFO, either in phase or out of phase with each other (selectable). That's not too much to ask, is it?
Also on this subject, if you were going to add standard tremolo to a non-tremolo Marshall using an effects loop, how would you implement it? Would you use a preamp tube as is done inside the Tremolo TMB? Would you consider an opto-coupler or some other method acceptable instead?
Jack