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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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Damn... it's finished. Voltages are on the high side, but wall voltage is extremely high at the moment, so I will have to wait before I zener this one down.
All in all pretty in the same ballpark, so I decided to light it up. Biased at 83%, so is this safe? It says 24.8W/ tube ... on a 36W OT???. Man this sounds huuuuuge!!!!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg5bekvobi8ty ... e.m4a?dl=0

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Sounds great, I love the tremolo!!
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Bieworm wrote:
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Damn... it's finished. Voltages are on the high side, but wall voltage is extremely high at the moment, so I will have to wait before I zener this one down.
All in all pretty in the same ballpark, so I decided to light it up. Biased at 83%, so is this safe? It says 24.8W/ tube ... on a 36W OT???. Man this sounds huuuuuge!!!!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg5bekvobi8ty ... e.m4a?dl=0

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Sounds great, I love the tremolo!!
Thx.. and the amp is dead quiet too. The noise you hear is me sitting right in front of it with a tele
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Great smooth tone and beautiful playing. I need lessons...

Congrats on a successful build! hurray

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Great sounds. And that PCB is hot and sexy.
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Love that pcb!!! Leaves less room for error + it's great quality
Thanks guys! Thanks Josh !
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Man I'm so in love with this amp!!!! And the reverb is only on 60%!!!

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Fantastic job, it sounds great!

I still need to record a demo of mine...that got procrastinated a little. lol

Are you using 6L6 or EL34? Your voltages are good for EL34 (81%), but would be high for 6L6 (107%).

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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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Fantastic job, it sounds great!

I still need to record a demo of mine...that got procrastinated a little. lol

Are you using 6L6 or EL34? Your voltages are good for EL34 (81%), but would be high for 6L6 (107%).

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6L6 kinda.. well sovtek 5881 WXT, which are 26 watt GT 6L6B tubes... salvaged from an old f€nder. They have to do for now...got some mullard EL34 on order...
Why do you say they're too hot biased? According to the robrob tube bias calculator they're 76.5%
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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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6L6 kinda.. well sovtek 5881 WXT, which are 26 watt GT 6L6B tubes... salvaged from an old f€nder. They have to do for now...got some mullard EL34 on order...
Why do you say they're too hot biased? According to the robrob tube bias calculator they're 76.5%
Oh, never mind then. I thought you were using regular 6L6 19W tubes. You're good where you are, anywhere between 75 to 85% dissipation.

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Building the combo shell. It's gonna be 1" deeper than my other tremolo TMB amps, due to the deeper chassis.
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Please post a youtube demo, so I can include a link when I start selling the PCBs. It's nice when the demo isn't always me. ;)

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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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Please post a youtube demo, so I can include a link when I start selling the PCBs. It's nice when the demo isn't always me. ;)

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A movieclip or soundclip?
Man, this sounds even better than the 18W! Bolder and meaner to be exact. Glad I made this one..
Cab is painted. Tolex the thing tomorrow... hope my grill cloth will arrive tomorrow too. Hope you don't mind me using the type you use. Not to copy your amps, but I like it a lot. Will have all black piping and a gold logo.
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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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A movieclip or soundclip?
Man, this sounds even better than the 18W! Bolder and meaner to be exact. Glad I made this one..
Cab is painted. Tolex the thing tomorrow... hope my grill cloth will arrive tomorrow too. Hope you don't mind me using the type you use. Not to copy your amps, but I like it a lot. Will have all black piping and a gold logo.
A movie. Sound clips alone aren't enough. I didn't invent the tolex. ;)

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JMPGuitars wrote:
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Bieworm wrote:
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A movieclip or soundclip?
Man, this sounds even better than the 18W! Bolder and meaner to be exact. Glad I made this one..
Cab is painted. Tolex the thing tomorrow... hope my grill cloth will arrive tomorrow too. Hope you don't mind me using the type you use. Not to copy your amps, but I like it a lot. Will have all black piping and a gold logo.
A movie. Sound clips alone aren't enough. I didn't invent the tolex. ;)

Thanks,
Josh
Not the tolex.. the grill cloth is nearly the same. I use regular black tolex.
I will make a video when the amp is finished. Promissed!
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Combo is coming together nicely
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Looks great!
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Don't think this needs EL34 tubes imho. But I will try them anyway... when they arrive.
This thing kicks @$$ bigtime... WOW!!!

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Josh...one thing I changed compared to my 18W. I put in a 9AB2C1B tank. It's medium decay ... I don't like the long decay on these amps. They tend to make feedback and hollow. The medium equalizes things better to my ears.
Do you reckon my old G12h30 would be safe in this amp? It sounds a lot nicer
Edit: never mind that.i put the classic lead 80 in it and that's what it needed. More low end and lower mids. Just wonderful! Creamy and lush! The oddest aspect is that I really think the 6L6 tubes do better OD than the EL84. I always thought it was the other way around.
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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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Bieworm wrote:
Thu 04/08/21 8:16 am
Josh...one thing I changed compared to my 18W. I put in a 9AB2C1B tank. It's medium decay ... I don't like the long decay on these amps. They tend to make feedback and hollow. The medium equalizes things better to my ears.
Do you reckon my old G12h30 would be safe in this amp? It sounds a lot nicer
Edit: never mind that.i put the classic lead 80 in it and that's what it needed. More low end and lower mids. Just wonderful! Creamy and lush! The oddest aspect is that I really think the 6L6 tubes do better OD than the EL84. I always thought it was the other way around.
I use medium or long decay, either sound good to me. But you can also adjust the dwell resistor (1M, sometimes replaced by a pot) to compensate if there is too much.

Better to you, sure. It's personal taste kinda stuff. Now try it out with EL34s and see which you like better.
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Re: New 36W tremolo TMB project

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JMPGuitars wrote:
Thu 04/08/21 3:57 pm
Bieworm wrote:
Thu 04/08/21 8:16 am
Josh...one thing I changed compared to my 18W. I put in a 9AB2C1B tank. It's medium decay ... I don't like the long decay on these amps. They tend to make feedback and hollow. The medium equalizes things better to my ears.
Do you reckon my old G12h30 would be safe in this amp? It sounds a lot nicer
Edit: never mind that.i put the classic lead 80 in it and that's what it needed. More low end and lower mids. Just wonderful! Creamy and lush! The oddest aspect is that I really think the 6L6 tubes do better OD than the EL84. I always thought it was the other way around.
I use medium or long decay, either sound good to me. But you can also adjust the dwell resistor (1M, sometimes replaced by a pot) to compensate if there is too much.

Better to you, sure. It's personal taste kinda stuff. Now try it out with EL34s and see which you like better.
Indeed.. on my 18W I added a dwell pot instead of the 1M resistor. But it's not the same as a medium decay tank. But hey, now I have both huh 😉
Yeah I’m curious about them EL34's. But it sounds really great already.. so I wonder what the 34s will do.
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