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Posted: Thu 02/16/06 2:02 pm
by Plexi
Or the sound man must have played onstage before.
Richie
Posted: Thu 02/16/06 3:38 pm
by NitroLiq
That brings up a question...how much do you leave up to the sound guy and how much do you take control of when it comes to things like reverb and delay? I may have my delay pedal or verb peda set up for a specific tonel....then the soundguy adds a huge amount of verb to everything, washing the sound out.
Posted: Fri 02/17/06 3:48 am
by blaren
Yeah that's kind of a tough call....but...I think it best to let the soundman (if you have one) handle it. As long as he knows what he's doing...it means he has to come to all the rehearsals and stuff. It's tough cause you think that having verb or delay coming out of your amp is cool and helps you play better but...it's kinda like having effects in the vocal monitors. I say NO WAY. You can still hear the effects on your vocals from the fronts, same with the guitar. If the soundman is good, he'll do them right and you'll hear and interact with the effects.
I dont have a soundman so its pedals. Would be way nicer to have someone with total control over the delay and verb...CRANKING it when need be.
my 2 pennies.
Posted: Fri 02/17/06 5:46 pm
by zach5150
When I run sound I dont put delays and 'verbs on the guitars or bass....only the vocals a little...and then, it depends on how the singer is using the mic, and generally how he sounds....sometimes a little verb on the kick and snare too....
Now, back on Topic...American Minor!!!
Check this crazy stuff out! If you read back at my previous posts about I was was really digging these guys and I bought the album....would like to see 'em etc, etc...
Well, I'm in SXSW this year running of the clubs (coordinating bands, schedules, equipment, sound, lights, liason w/ club manager...etc....) I just got back from my meeting w/ one of the SXSW coordinators and got assigned to the club I'm gonna handle....and looked at the schedule.....and guess what??
American Minor is playing MY club!!!! How cool is that? Weird mojo how that worked out...thousands of bands will be here in about 65 different clubs and I get the club w/ one of my bands I've recently been into!
Dont be jealous...

Posted: Sat 02/18/06 4:30 am
by blaren
cool...but WHATEVER you do,,,do NOT put reverb on the kick
I never heard of such a thing...am I just oldschool or something?

Posted: Sat 02/18/06 10:06 am
by NitroLiq
Depends...I remember seeing Saigon Kick when they were a local band in south florida and this is when they were copying the whole Jane's Addiction hard psychadelic "art rock" thing...the sound guy would throw a verb on the kick for certain "canon" effects here and there. In general, though, you're right....verb on the snare, not on the kick.
Posted: Sat 02/18/06 1:05 pm
by blaren
Phew!!!!
Things change so much. You never know.
I'm still stuck on '80s big kinda long decaying verb on the snare. I dont see many bands except on tv and stuff, it seems that the snare verb is gated a bit these days...they decay for a while then SLAM shut!
Live, REAL, wooden, "toney" liveley drums seem to be the thing too these days. That's kinda cool...drummers chasing TONE...imagine that!
And US?...we go backwards lol. The older and more primitive the better. Older guitars, amps, spkrs, effects. I dont like "vintage" sized drums. I like a small kick..like 20X20...What did Bonzo play?...a 28 or something? Are THOSE comming back anytime soon? Maybe?
Oh well....I gotta go start packing up my rig so I can move it to the gig myself, then go to the drummer's place and pickup the "gear" then set it up, then soundcheck it, then come home, eat, shower, go gig, tear down, load-out, offload the trucks, go home unload my rig....
all that for a measley $250!! I "COULD" just go to WORK instead. It's Saturday (time and a half) so I'd only have to stand behind a lathe for 5 hours to make the same $$$!
but how much fun would THAT be?

Posted: Sat 02/18/06 5:56 pm
by blaren
oh...forgot to add...you know, cause I havent added enough already

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I'm by FAR not the best guitar player around...bass player isnt fancy and neither is the drummer. I have to do all the singing too and I'm NOT a lead singer. I have like zero range. All that said, We ROCK!!! We pack the places, people who didnt even want to be there end-up STAYING (that's the BEST one) and we have a following. I know our weaknesses so we concentrate on filling things out with dynamics and vocal harmonies. song selection is "paramount" for us.
Is grey the BEST color? is blue? yellow? red??? Personally I like green the best but it's made of blue and yellow. Green lights blow...unless they're with blue..then they're awesome. It's all about the big picture and how all the colors blend and interact. You only really need red blue and yellow to make every other color. Geeze..you think I might be off on a bit of a tangent here?? It's just that I've always thought of "primadonna" guitarplayers in that way. If it were up to them, the whole canvas would be bright red!!!
Not saying that about any of you fellas at all...you know the kind of guy I mean though...takes every solo...is way loud....
The drummer is like the eizel though and without that foundation the painting has nothing to stand on. To me, as long as the eizel is rock solid, I dont need one with 8 legs and neon lights.
Posted: Mon 02/27/06 11:09 pm
by Plexi
There will be an 18 TMB combo[with the secret sauce] in the shows coming up,,starting tomorrow night in Va.
Going to try and get a Wreck head finished for the shows in W.va if the transformers come in time.
Here is a list of the other shows,if you wanted to go out and check them out.
Feb 28 2006 8:00P
Starr Hill w/State Radio Charlottesville, VA
Mar 1 2006 8:30P
Cat's Cradle w/State Radio Carrboro, NC
Mar 2 2006 8:30P
The Five Spot w/State Radio Atlanta, GA
Mar 10 2006 9:00P
Blue Cats w/ Will Hoge & Limbeck Knoxville, TN
Mar 18 2006 8:00P
SXSW @ Soho Lounge Austin, TX
Mar 20 2006 8:00P
Parish @ House of Blues w/ The Thieves New Orleans, LA
Mar 21 2006 9:00P
Smith's Olde Bar w/ The Thieves Atlanta, GA
Mar 22 2006 9:00P
The Nick w/ The Thieves Birmingham, AL
Mar 23 2006 9:00P
Exit/In w/ The Thieves Nashville, TN
Mar 24 2006 10:00P
Cowboy Monkey w/ The Thieves Champaign, IL
Mar 26 2006 10:00P
Replay Lounge w/ The Thieves Lawrence, KS
Mar 28 2006 10:00P
The Elbo Room w/ The Thieves Chicago, IL
Mar 29 2006 8:00P
The Lime Spider w/ The Thieves Akron, OH
Mar 30 2006 9:00P
Fletcher's w/ The Thieves Baltimore, MD
Mar 31 2006 10:00P
Rex's Tavern w/ The Thieves West Chester, PA
Apr 1 2006 8:00P
The Peppermint Beach Club w/ The Thieves Virginia Beach, VA
Apr 7 2006 9:00P
Sound Factory Charleston, WV
Apr 15 2006 9:00P
The Monkeybar Huntington, WV
Apr 27 2006 7:00P
Webster Underground Hartford, CT
Apr 28 2006 8:00P
Mark's Place Bedford, NH
Apr 29 2006 8:00P
Bryant University Smithfield, RI
Richie