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WATKINS DOMINATOR CABINET

Posted: Sat 02/24/07 6:05 pm
by user669
Hello everyone,

I was wondering if any of you nice people out there own a Watkins Dominator and if you do would you be willing to help me with the cabinet specs.

I have been wanting to offer this cabinet on my website for a while now and nobody in my area owns one for me to copy.

If someone out there is willing to take the time to help me by posting detailed photos and sizes of everything I think I would not be the only one greatful. Others would benefit from this information also.

THANKS!!!

EDIT!!
HERE IS THE FINISHED PROTOTYPE!
<img src="http://www.ampcabco.com/pics/dominator1.jpg">

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 10:06 am
by kmenard
some one please do this...I really want a dominator cab :)

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 10:22 am
by tarzanalog

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 10:42 am
by kmenard
uhhh...I was looking for just the cabinet :)

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 10:47 am
by tarzanalog
I know.

:wink:

(You could probably ballpark it... I'm working something up in Visio right now for a standard 18W chassis.)

What I have so far.

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 2:57 pm
by user669
Here is what I got so far. This is my prototype.....

There are going to be some changes for the production cabinet.

This is 24" across 20" high it will fit an 18 watt combo chassis.

Let me know your thoughts out there so I can fine tune this baby.

Oh.. and I cut the speakers for 2 - 12...

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 4:33 pm
by tarzanalog
That looks good to me!... what's the width of the sides?... and the degree on the front angle?

In Visio it was looking like I'd need a 7" side panel width (to have enough room for my 36W iron) and that the angle at the front was roughly 30 degrees. (Or 15 degrees off of a flat front for each side... however you want to look at it.) 24" x 20" was also the smallest dimension that I had thought would work.

Nice work. How much to build me one uncovered/unfinished just like your prototype there?

Posted: Fri 03/02/07 4:55 pm
by user669
tarzanalog,
Thanks,
The sides are 5" but 7" could be done by adding 2" to the rear. The front angle that I used was 28 dergees and met up in the center. Which gives about 13.5" for each V side.

I noticed after I did this prototype that I made the front cutouts too rounded in the corners. I see now in some pictures I found on the net that the vintage cabinets have more of a sharp corner to them.

About pricing...
Feel free to e-mail me to talk shop, I don't want to post any information that might upset the forum rules.

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 9:42 am
by jcny
Top Shelf Music has one for sale and a picture on their web sight.

May be the could take some dimensions for you.

http://www(dot)topshelfmusic(dot)com/ listed under amps

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 12:15 pm
by user669
JNCY,
Thanks. I will send them an e-mail and see if they would be willing to do that for me.

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 12:45 pm
by pmurph1x
Here's a Watkins enthusiast - he might help.

http://www.watkinsguitars.co.uk/contact.htm

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 1:03 pm
by user669
OKay thanks,

I wrote Reg and I will post any information he gives me.

I have a feeling that we are pretty close to the right size. But I do want to double check.

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 1:50 pm
by echuta13
Wow user669 that looks really good! 8)

I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.

dominator

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 2:11 pm
by floridajack
i'm going to take this photo and run it through some vectoring software that i have. i should be able to get pretty exact dimensions based on the cd case sitting on the top if the amp.

fj

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 3:08 pm
by Dynaflow_Donnie
Holy cow, a Watkins echo unit? Cool, did'nt know they made one. Thats a great cab, always thought the newer 18 watter would be cool in it, Be curious how it sounds out front with the splayed speaker setup. Good luck with it, prototype looks awesome.

Regards,

Dyna

Posted: Sat 03/03/07 3:53 pm
by user669
Thanks for the comments everyone!

I have been working on the prototype today and the back panel is almost done. I also cut the grooves for the two tone seperations.
I will be able to cover it soon.

I will post an updated photo later.

Posted: Mon 03/05/07 1:37 am
by Mr_dB
Dynaflow_Donnie wrote:Holy cow, a Watkins echo unit? Cool, did'nt know they made one. Thats a great cab, always thought the newer 18 watter would be cool in it, Be curious how it sounds out front with the splayed speaker setup. Good luck with it, prototype looks awesome.
Oh yeah, they made tons of echo units. The Copicat is probably the one piece of WEM equipment most likely to be found in a pawn shop in the USA, they were imported by Guild for a long time.

Posted: Mon 03/05/07 1:38 am
by Mr_dB
user669 wrote:Thanks for the comments everyone!

I have been working on the prototype today and the back panel is almost done. I also cut the grooves for the two tone seperations.
I will be able to cover it soon.

I will post an updated photo later.
What coverings will you be using? Have you found a reasonable facsimile for the original Rexene?

Posted: Mon 03/05/07 1:26 pm
by user669
Mr_dB wrote:
user669 wrote:Thanks for the comments everyone!

I have been working on the prototype today and the back panel is almost done. I also cut the grooves for the two tone seperations.
I will be able to cover it soon.

I will post an updated photo later.
What coverings will you be using? Have you found a reasonable facsimile for the original Rexene?
Mr_dB
I have been searching the internet for the past couple days looking for a covering that comes close to what the vintage Dominator had, (that blue/white) and I have come close but nothing that just jumps out at me and says that’s the one...

I asked Charlie Watkins if it would be okay to make his cabinet and when I was looking up his contact information I noticed a photograph of a Vintage Dominator that was 2 tone black and cream I think unless it was a dirty white. So I was thinking about making the prototype really just stand out by using Black/Gold/Black.

What do you guys think? Want to see a dominator in black and gold?

I am not going to stop looking for something closer to the right stuff unless it just is not out there.

Posted: Mon 03/05/07 5:27 pm
by Mr_dB
user669 wrote:
Mr_dB wrote:
user669 wrote:Thanks for the comments everyone!

I have been working on the prototype today and the back panel is almost done. I also cut the grooves for the two tone seperations.
I will be able to cover it soon.

I will post an updated photo later.
What coverings will you be using? Have you found a reasonable facsimile for the original Rexene?
Mr_dB
I have been searching the internet for the past couple days looking for a covering that comes close to what the vintage Dominator had, (that blue/white) and I have come close but nothing that just jumps out at me and says that’s the one...

I asked Charlie Watkins if it would be okay to make his cabinet and when I was looking up his contact information I noticed a photograph of a Vintage Dominator that was 2 tone black and cream I think unless it was a dirty white. So I was thinking about making the prototype really just stand out by using Black/Gold/Black.

What do you guys think? Want to see a dominator in black and gold?

I am not going to stop looking for something closer to the right stuff unless it just is not out there.
The Rexine covering used by British amp makers in the late 1950s seems to be used primarily for book binding. Here's one supplier with a color that's sort of close, although the texture is wrong:
http://www.fjratchford.co.uk/shades.asp?product_id=6

I thought I had a link for a British radio restoration supplier that has Rexine, but now I can't find it.