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These caps any good for amps?
Posted: Tue 05/18/04 3:27 pm
by Psalm150
I know they sound great in guitars, but anyone used these in amps?
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Posted: Tue 05/18/04 5:25 pm
by Wannatone
I´d be very careful to put 40 years old used caps in an amp as most of them are likely leaky.
Adrian
Posted: Wed 05/19/04 1:22 am
by Psalm150
Cou;d leaky caps do damage, or just not work?
Posted: Wed 05/19/04 7:19 am
by Ethan
They can definitely do damage! When used as coupling caps, DC will leak through and can affect the bias of the next stage. It can red-plate your power tubes faster than you can say "Ooops...".
You could always test for leakage bfore using them, but I've found it's best to shy away from used and NOS capacitors. The Black Beauties almost always leak. It's true that old caps look very cool and have a certain sound, but there are enough choices on the current market to enable us to find good-sounding, reliable, modern caps for our amps and not worry about when the next cap is going to fail.
Peace-
Ethan
Posted: Wed 05/19/04 1:27 pm
by Psalm150
D'oh! Ok, thanks for the info.
Posted: Thu 05/20/04 12:20 pm
by zenin
Anyone know if Sozo is making the repro mustards in values for the 18 watt yet?
Posted: Thu 05/20/04 3:16 pm
by Psalm150
They have a few like .022 and .01.
Posted: Thu 05/20/04 4:24 pm
by s2
There is actually no such thing as an NOS capacitor. Caps dry out and go bad after 10 t0 20 years depending upon the design. Best to go with the highest quality new caps you can afford from makers like Mallory and Sprague.
Posted: Thu 05/20/04 6:44 pm
by Psalm150
Well that's with electolytic caps. There's nothing in a ceramic or foil cap to dry!
I've had plenty of good 40-50 year old caps that didn't drift or leak.
Posted: Fri 05/21/04 9:35 am
by Ethan
That's quite true of ceramic caps. I'd have to respectfully disagree about foil caps. many old foil caps use oiled paper as a dialectric and these caps can and do go bad. In some cases, really bad.
Several years ago I got some "Black Beauty" type caps from the late 50s which were the same type used in old McIntosh amplifiers. I later found out that all but one of those foil caps leaked, and roasted a pair of EL84s in the process. I have, however, used 50 year old ceramics that did not leak one bit. Very stable.
New, current production caps are definitely the way to go.
Now, Who's this making mustard cap repros?
Ethan
Posted: Fri 05/21/04 12:25 pm
by zenin
Do a google search for Sozo caps and you'll find their website and info including testimonials about their caps. Also there are a lot of threads about them sounding awesome on the PlexiPalace Marshall forum, mainly by guys who have used them very successfully in the Marshall re-issues.
Posted: Fri 05/21/04 2:54 pm
by Ethan
Thanks. I went to their site and took a peek.
Expensive, but not crazy-expensive.
Anybody here had any experience with them?
Ethan
Posted: Fri 05/21/04 4:37 pm
by Psalm150
Thanks for the clarification on the caps, Ethan. I had no idea foil could dry out.
I've only heard great things about Sozo, though haven't used them myself.
Posted: Fri 05/21/04 5:49 pm
by s2
Ah, yes. I didn't really clarify, did I? I should have excluded ceramics from my blanket statement. I guess I'm still seeing red from the Dallas guitar show at which some dealers were selling "NOS" can caps at ridiculous prices. You are so right. Nothing to dry out in ceramics.