I'm new here as of today...
Posted: Tue 11/21/23 9:21 pm
Hello all. I'm just looking for tips or partial instruction on how to migrate from a Marshall JCM 200 DSL-100, to an 18 watt Marshall.
I got my DSL used at a great deal years ago, but I've grown tired of the lack of string detail, and the overall feel of the amp. I think it's too much amp for my limited abilities.
I'm here because the idea of a smaller wattage amp appeals to me, for use with different speakers, a 1X12, or 2X12, mixing Alnico blue's with Greenbacks or anything else.
I like the idea of having a smaller amp set to just at the edge of breakup, to maintain the spank and snap these amps seem to have - before they become loose and flubby. My thought was to order the https://www.trinityamps.com/product/trinity-18/ kit from Trinity Amps here in Canada.
If you listen to this clip at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgI88p-uPWk from the beginning until the 13 second mark. At 13 seconds, he dials the pre-amp down to about 9 o'clock. That cleaner spank he gets is amazing, but underneath you still hear that girthy mid-range.
Compare that tone to this 1974X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgI88p-uPWk from 7:55 to 8:10. It has More spank, brighter, with the strat, while the Wang's 2204 has a "bigger" fuller sound. (The Wang's 2204 was recorded with a Burny SG using humbuckers)
Here's where I'm going with this... I find a lot of demo's of 1974'x, sounding boxy, sometimes, or squishy in the mids and lows. — Maybe it's the way some people push the amp. My DSL is the same, I find it sounds best around 3-4 on the volume, but then it's deafening.
With an 18 watt, I think it's more practical, even to use an attenuator with it, to set the amp at edge of breakup, and then attenuate the overall volume further. I can play loud in my house, but it's just too much on my ears.
Question: Why do smaller amps like the 1974X not have that forward stiffness in the mids like the Wang's 2204 does?
I either buy the Wang's, 50 watt 2204, and get a Weber MASS 100w Attenuator https://www.tedweber.com/mass/ ("Designed for use with 60w amplifiers and lower")
OR, an 18 watt Marshall kit, to run into a Weber MiniMASS 50w Attenuator https://www.tedweber.com/minimass/ ("Designed for use with 35w amplifiers and lower.")
I got my DSL used at a great deal years ago, but I've grown tired of the lack of string detail, and the overall feel of the amp. I think it's too much amp for my limited abilities.
I'm here because the idea of a smaller wattage amp appeals to me, for use with different speakers, a 1X12, or 2X12, mixing Alnico blue's with Greenbacks or anything else.
I like the idea of having a smaller amp set to just at the edge of breakup, to maintain the spank and snap these amps seem to have - before they become loose and flubby. My thought was to order the https://www.trinityamps.com/product/trinity-18/ kit from Trinity Amps here in Canada.
If you listen to this clip at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgI88p-uPWk from the beginning until the 13 second mark. At 13 seconds, he dials the pre-amp down to about 9 o'clock. That cleaner spank he gets is amazing, but underneath you still hear that girthy mid-range.
Compare that tone to this 1974X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgI88p-uPWk from 7:55 to 8:10. It has More spank, brighter, with the strat, while the Wang's 2204 has a "bigger" fuller sound. (The Wang's 2204 was recorded with a Burny SG using humbuckers)
Here's where I'm going with this... I find a lot of demo's of 1974'x, sounding boxy, sometimes, or squishy in the mids and lows. — Maybe it's the way some people push the amp. My DSL is the same, I find it sounds best around 3-4 on the volume, but then it's deafening.
With an 18 watt, I think it's more practical, even to use an attenuator with it, to set the amp at edge of breakup, and then attenuate the overall volume further. I can play loud in my house, but it's just too much on my ears.
Question: Why do smaller amps like the 1974X not have that forward stiffness in the mids like the Wang's 2204 does?
I either buy the Wang's, 50 watt 2204, and get a Weber MASS 100w Attenuator https://www.tedweber.com/mass/ ("Designed for use with 60w amplifiers and lower")
OR, an 18 watt Marshall kit, to run into a Weber MiniMASS 50w Attenuator https://www.tedweber.com/minimass/ ("Designed for use with 35w amplifiers and lower.")